Well Mafia Wars has changed the fight list as we know it and have changed what the shark tank is too.
They have now made it so a player has to fight within certain brackets on the fight list and people are not happy about it if the forum's are any indication. Seems like they are slowly rolling it out to the players as I still have all levels on my fight list to hit.
Here is the post by Al Catraz on the forum that spells it out.
So the the new Fighting Bracket Levels are as follows :
0-450 451-600
601-999
1000 +
This does not mean that players cant attack lower level players it just means this is what you are going to find on your fight list now. If a high level player gets your link they can still attack you so this really doesn't protect the lower level players from being targets from people who farm out your link to their friends, families/clans & bullies. This also means good luck finding people alive to fight on the fight list as now your choices of who you can fight has now been limited.
This is good for the casual player but for most of the players in the game this will hinder them especially the players who worked so hard to build up their characters so when they got to the old Shark tank, Level 451 +, they were ready for what was about to dished out to them.
Oh yeah, did I forget to tell you they changed what the Shark Tank is now too. The new shark tank is now level 1000+ and they even added an achievement for getting there and winning 10 fights.
I know not alot of people are not going to like this new format and I can assure you that Mafia Wars will see an exodus of players if the forum's are any indication. Time will tell I guess. Maybe they will come to their senses and change it back before to much damage is done.
Update LMAO :
really bad....why change the game ???...because of babies crying that higher levels attack them?...That was part of Mafia wars and turning 451...so the cry babies get there way, just hate the new setup all together, everyones DEAD!!!
ReplyDelete[4:33:30 PM] lyle: gee i see they found another way to screw up the game unless yes thats it they figure we will spend more money to pass level 1000 wait in time you will be able to buy levels
ReplyDeleteI fight high levels I win I spent 2 years building this I do not want to play this stupid game anymore Zynga is ruining it and will be left with nothing but casual players who don't spend $.This is our game. On Saturday 1/22/11 @ 12 pm EST everyone remove the MW app for an hour maybe then the Zynga Ftards will realize what they stand to lose
ReplyDeleteYes I'm in, f them time to remove MW after all the $ and time that the true players put into this game. They are slowly making this game a joke!
ReplyDeleteThey have done a lot worse than this and still remain in business making money. As the game ages they will need to modify the shark tank to keep it a challenge and keep it interesting.
ReplyDeleteI've never spent money on MW or any Zynga game and never will. But, I have spent a lot of time playing. When I was at really low levels, I was attacked all the time by higher levels. I hit back, lost continually, but didn't care. Finally, I'm high enough that only super-high levels can beat me. Took forever, but I did it. If you don't want to be attacked, don't play. But, if you play, suck it up and take what happens. Hate the new idea.
ReplyDelete1. I understand about the concerns the fight list being empty as a result of the change. However, is this not a result of people using multiple accounts, using their lower level fight account(s)?
ReplyDelete2. I also understand about cry babies who do not like being attacked. However, those that are complaining about the change, are they not cry babies as well? Sounds a bit hypocritical
well its about time they made the playing field a little more even all you cc players can still fight yourselves and leave the low levels alone. oh i forgot you guys cant beat anyone your own level thats why your all pissed off!!! great move zynga
ReplyDeleteI have been playing for over a yr. Im proud Ive got to where I am. Ive been attacked and Ive done the attacking, but SOME of the clans and groups go to far...they should be kept in check. I have just hit 470 level have been getting my butt kicked but I keep on trying...Theres always room for change but I dont know if this will be a good onr . If there were a way to stop the bullies I say yyaaa but dont think there is ...
ReplyDeleteI dont mind higher levels attacking me but from what i have herd from a lot of people and i agree that some of them just starting have no chance of fighting against A level 1,000 when there only a level 23 or 65 that i think is very unfair . the fight list should all types of levels so the game is fair to play. but i feel that the new ones just starting out should have a chance to fight within there levels at least till they get a chance to build up a bit.I no a lot of people that have just started out and just gave up cos they cant play the game cos when there only a level 65 and getting hit by levels as big as 5,000 you tell me what chance do they have to play the game.
ReplyDeleteI think it's ironic. all those people whining cause a level 2000 account beat em. got stuck with the majority of the real fight accounts and no E accounts to beat. I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for.
ReplyDeleteI think the best way is Example if you a level say 500 the ones above you should not be more than a level 800 thats still 300 levels higher its not fair if your a level 500 and they are a level 4,000 i like to fight anyone but please keep it real.....
ReplyDeletei didnt get this. what is the old 'shark tank'? level 451+? ive never seen this.. dont know what the post is talking about... but anyway, didnt like the change either.. im lvl. 1543 and a lot of 'smaller' players beats me... with this new loot system, everyone who has 501 mafia, can be jsut as tough as anyone else..
ReplyDeletestop all your whining .. Zynga just fix the damned games so they work
ReplyDeleteSo, according to one user, if you dont spend money in MW, you are not a "true player" well, I have not spent a dime and I can hang with the best of them. besides, with the slot machine, there really is no need to buy RP's. I do agree that the fight list should be divided up so it is more fair to the lower levels. divide it up by skill points since all the "true players" buy their skills anyways, and not earn them like the rest of us.........
ReplyDeleteFact... They keep this up they are going to loose a lot of customer/ clients.... when players have nothing to loose no telling what they will do with Z.
ReplyDeletei say base fighting on skills and not levels! level has nothing to do with strength. so what if i can beat a level 3000 energy account while im still only level 415??!!?? it goes no further than to show me im a fighter and they are a jobber.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought! Levels do not have that much to do with a player's strength. At best it is an indicator as to a MINIMUM of how many SP they have acquired (5 pts per level). Also, there will always be someone stronger. How they got there can vary (work hard at it, buy it etc). If those who require having a larger pool of people to attack to accomplish their goals, they may not like the change, especially if the vast majority are below the 1000 level.
ReplyDeleteI'm only a level 202 but I have to wonder when the name of the game is going to change from "Mafia Wars" to "Let's play nice with each other" or some such. Real Mafia's fought each other stronger against weaker, smaller against larger. Not always the largest won and not always the strongest won. If I may make a suggestion, fix the glitches there are now and let the "PLAYERS" play. If people don't understand that Mafia Wars is a fight/war game then they have a lot of peaceful, non-warring games they can choose from. I want to fight and I don't care what level the person is.
ReplyDeleteOkay..I was one of the cry Babies..Leveled up to 300 and had the living crap pounded out of me by 400's, all the way up to 450. The 450 was a KILLING Machine..ok, Take my chops, evade and avoid because i sure could not do much to hit back. Used My own mafia hitters acouple of times and declared war. My Major Gripe was I couldn't have access to anything in my own food group..Couldn't find any 330's less than 350. It was like..Give me something to EAT after i recover from BEING EATEN..That's my point of view.
ReplyDeleteit would help if a player knows the limits and rules on who or what is attacking. isnt it like shooting fish in a barrel if there's on chance in hell to retaliate not to mention any challenge to the person attacking if there several million exp. points above the other. It looks like your being made a bitch in the big house when a group of 5 or more take turns at seeing who can snuff you out. its suck when you have more loss than wins by30,000. don't cry about the issue if it seems no challenge. if ya respect the fact the some players under 501 should be left alone and some way below there own Lev offers only empty achievements and confusion to others learning as they go thou the changes of being new to the rules or lack there in..... ya get real if ya give a player more information on how it works there would be any crying because it seems like being vacated a whipping gangster for no fault in their part other than being on the bottom of the totem poll........etc and so on LOL. IN THE REAL MAFIA THERE IS RESPECT AND RESPECT GIVIEN ..IF YA CROSSED SOMEONE CEMENT SHOES WERE FITTED TO YA. IN THE 1930"s AND 40"S THE GOOD OLD DAYS A END OF A ERA TO LEARN HOW IT WAS. OK MAYBE a freeforall seems more fun if you are always the victor...just don't forget what comes around go's around the way winning points are more easy achieved
ReplyDeletei have read the commenters on this topic, and i have agreements and disagreements.
ReplyDelete1. remove mafia wars for an hour? come on? do you think zynga cares? they are in the business of crapping on everybody. case in point when i started playing this game 2 years ago, zynga was pitching all this "high end loot" in what has now become the marketplace. where you could buy an awesome hornet sniper rifle (35/24) for 35rp. and all the other rp loot was of simmilar stats. so how much money did their "real players" throw away on crap that does them absolutely no good now. if they bought their skills, then i suppose they made a better investment.
2. shark tank. i received no pop up about a "shark tank" when i hit lvl 450. thank you zynga for throwing down on this. 98% of your players have no idea what you are talking about.
and finally
3. breaking the fight list down by level. first i am lvl 707, but learned long ago that in this game level is trivial. you can be a lvl 250 with mad attack and defense but low health, energy, and stamina and easily hang with lvl 700+ i have a friend who was doing it regularly when i met him. i agree with the poster above. forget level, they have screwed things up to the point that lvl no longe matters. break the fight list down by allocation of skill points. hope they read this, but to those who just did. thanks for your attention
A fight list with an average of level 3000 is easier to beat than a fight list with an average level of 1000.
ReplyDeleteThis is because, the higher you go in level brackets, the lesser the percentage of fighter accs, and the higher the percentage of energy accs. When Zynga made changes that benefit high stam, less E. When Zynga brough chopshops and weapons depots. Many formerly energy based, or balanced players started from scratch, and started building pure fighter accounts. You'll find the bulk of that pure fighter population (about 5 x level A/D skill + whatever plastic) is in the level 500 ~ 1000 range.
So if you ask me, a noob player who plays for free and doesn't clan, does all the events and jobs, and has more E than their level. At level 450 wanting to be in their own level range is stupid. Energy farmers don't stay in that range, so you'll have a much higher percentage of fighter accs in there than not. The ones you can beat, would be casual players, and you don't get the fun of standing off against a fighter. No tango, no pong.
Word of advice to the newbies.
ReplyDelete#1. get 501 mafia.You can defriend people you don't much like and they'll still be in your mafia.
#2. your best defense is a good offense. Attack, Stamina, Health. Defense and energy you can play catch up later.
#3. You will die very often until you've earned and built your character. Learn to not care.
#4. Join a starter clan. There are plenty of clans around, join one. In a war, forget about losing or dying. Just HEAL and HIT BACK. Sooner or later, a war clan is going to notice you and take you under their wing. You will also receive FRs from other fighter types, and gradually populate your mafia with strong players who can give you advice on the game, and help you out with loot.
#5. If Winning and Losing is not something you enjoy, Treasure Isle, Cafe World, FrontierVille, Cityville, Farmville, will never show you red numbers and there are no sharks waiting to eat you.
Hmm, My level is 1500++ and I've already win over 10 fights, but why I don't get that achievement??
ReplyDeleteAnybody wanna help??
Ty..
Nobody would even care if Zynga would get rid of the 3rd party Brawler programs that hit you 90 times in 2 seconds. Nobody can click Power Attack that fast.
ReplyDeleteI'd suggest that Zynga make the fight list totally random and eliminate the level information. Also, if there would be some way to slow down the non-Zynga attack scripts...It amazes me how people act in a game such as this. Some feel they can check their ethics/morals at the door. Is this because it's virtual or relatively anonymous? Can you see someone playing Monopoly or any other board game this way? I don't think so. I think some scripts (e.g. Chucker) should be recognized by Zynga as contributing to the game without diminishing it. Other scripts should be eliminated or short-circuited some way IMHO.
ReplyDeleteI am level 452 can't find anyone in my own range on board to fight? My health is always below 21 now just refilled again and watched it go from over 1000 to 11 in 1 sec....again, again again.!!!!! not happy Jan.
ReplyDeleteEliminate any scripts and they'd see a mass exodus of players and Zynga knows it and therefore will never do it.
ReplyDeletePut everyone in fighting tiers according to levels. No more hiding in the hospital and doing jobs, collecting from properties, or purchasing anything in game while health is below 20. Every player should be on the fight list for 20 hours at a time every day, no matter if they're logged into Mafia Wars or not and during their 20 hour stint their health should be automatically refilled every 20 minutes - this would eliminate hospital hiding and there would be plenty of live targets to attack.
Having said this I'd suggest the following as the tiered levels:
TIER 1. LEVEL 1 - 25
TIER 2. 26 - 50
TIER 3. 51 - 100
TIER 4. 101 - 200
TIER 5. 201 - 300
TIER 6. 301 - 450
TIER 7. 451 - 600
TIER 8. 601 - 850
TIER 9. 851 - 1050
TIER 10. THE SHARK TANK OVER LEVEL 1051
ALSO NO EXPERIENCE POINTS AND LOOT SHOULD BE GAINED BY ATTACKING AND WINNING FIGHTS AGAINST PEOPLE IN LOWER FIGHT TIERS - YOU'D JUST WIN THE FIGHT AND COLLECT THE STATS. IF YOU'RE IN THAT FIGHT TIER AND CANNOT COMPETE BECAUSE YOU PUT ALL OF YOUR SKILL POINTS TO ENERGY THOUGH SH*T.
HITLIST CAN ONLY ATTACK AND COLLECT THE BOUNTY OF PLAYERS ONE TIER LOWER AND FOR ALL TIERS HIGHER.
ROBBING ONLY IN ONES OWN TIER OR HIGHER - NEVER LOWER.
Level 123 here, might as well throw in the towel and find another game to play. Being beat all over the place by 1000+ to 8000 and that's just wrong.
ReplyDeleteI can't beat a level 500 much less defend myself against these bullies. What is ZYNGA thinking..what is wrong with this picture..good way to loose players.
Mickey Johnson you are an idiot!
ReplyDeleteI would kinda like to know what the comment meant about clans going to far? What do we do any different than any other? The only time we use our clan power is IF one of our own is getting bullied. But we don't go around attacking people and bullying anyone.. in fact most clans forbid being a bully, or asking mafia to attack anyone..etc.
ReplyDeletewhen I first started playing I got slapped about mercilessly, never realising the best way to play was by being a fighter and forget about levels. Level up as slowly as you can. Get the NY skills properties Chop Shop etc built. Steal, beg, trade, however you do it, get the parts and build them, never use your RP for anything except skills, don't buy the skills, rebuild early.
ReplyDeleteThen when you do reach the shark tank, a lot of bigger players will get a shock, they lose to you.
Now I'm level 2179 and look for players lvl 5000+ to attack. I just wish the Chicago health boosts were never created.
Of course you will still lose a lot but hell, it doesn't hurt.
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am less than lvl 500 amd for last 20 hours i not been able to fight..my health lasts 10 secs at max.. why ?? cos of lvls of 4000+ as high as 7000 are constantly sitting on me this is so unfair ..i not gonna be a cry baby ,, it just shows the stupidity of zynga and the selfishness of the high lvls ..they hat insecure to fight someone their own lvl..or just pussys??
ReplyDeleteAgain... Zynga puts very little thought in game!
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