Well I have to tell you I found alot out about how things work at Zynga. The big thing is from Zynga Security and what they do know and what they dont know.
Over the weekend I attended the PAC conference at the Zynga Headquarters along with numerous others in the game. They gave us a real picture of how things work & the procedures of how things get done. One of the most interesting parts was when the Director of Security Operations, The Dark Knight, came in to talk to us.
Lets just say it was illuminating to say the least. If you think you are getting over on Zynga, think again. They know exactly whats going on, they know who the loot sellers are, they know who the people are who are exploiting the game and if you are one of them you should be very worried. They will get you and have gotten plenty of them and more will be brought down in the future.
Let me give you a couple of examples :
1. There was someone from jolly olde England, Ashley Mitchell, 29, who stole over $12 million in Zynga Poker chips and was selling them on the black market. He got caught and is now in jail and being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
2. There was someone who was recently caught running over 10,000 loot accounts with a staff of 100 people working for him. Well all those account were closed and he will never be able to get another one again or a Facebook account either. What will happen legally to them has not been released yet but you can bet it will be serious.
You may ask what about the trading of loot for Game Cards ? Dont do it !!! What about those who do it for donations ? Think again. This is still cheating in the eyes of Zynga.
Now comes the big question you are all going to ask what about Brawler, Linkanator switch, etc... Well while Zynga doesn't approve of these they are also not going out of their way to go after those of us who use them as long as we dont abuse them and run then 24 /7. But remember they dont approve of them so use them at you own risk but from what I got and others did was as long as these bookmarklets aren't abused then we are pretty much safe. But things can change in the future, you never know.
So what about these pop ups saying they are checking our accounts.Well they really are checking them and something has flagged them and it was not a computer that put the so called Soft Ban on it. Real people do it. Now just so you know it could be something simple they saw that met their criteria for them to look at the account.
They will review it and determine what it is and for the most part if you did nothing wrong you will be back playing fairly quickly. It does take some time so be patient, they are actually being looked at by humans, not computers. And they will be very fair with you but the pop up will stay until they clear the account.
The bottom-line here is that The Zynga Security Team knows who the cheaters are and will get them but like any good legal team they have to confirm all the evidence before acting. They will not ban you unless 100% sure and from what I have seen they do a very thorough job & are very fair.
So to all those who think they can get over on Zynga, whatever game it may be, Think again. The Dark Knight and his expert team are on the job and will get you.
Let's see how many platinum players accts. are closed.Zynga's not going to bite the hand that feeds.They have made the game so tedious nad all consuming that the serious player has to use BMs to keep up. They say in their TOS that anything that gives a player an unfair advantage over another violates their TOS but don't they break their own rule by selling RP's and the people with the most money buy their att and def? I was told by a member of BOOM that the biggest acct on FB cost a player $100K euros and has 200K att/def this is an unfair advantage.
ReplyDeleteThe ability to purchase RP does not create an unfair advantage as the option is there for everyone. Notice, I said the OPTION is there for everyone......with an exploit the option is not there for everyone and that is what creates an unfair advantage in the game.
ReplyDeleteYes, I do understand that while the option is there it is not feasible for everyone to be able to purchase RP. Such is life. I'm not able to buy a 2 million dollar house and $100,000 car, but it doesn't make it unfair for those that are able to.
This is a business so the people that spend the most cash will have the advantage. That's fair...
ReplyDeleteBut what isn't fair is when you are beating someone and suddenly you end up frozen on your fightlist while watching your health dwindle down to zero until death. Or if you have say 8k health and die in 3 seconds. These issues are driving many players crazy mad from my MW circle of friends, and I am beginning to think that is the intent of Zynga folks to stimulate wars and the accompanying RP purchases...
This is not true as the marklets are also available to everyone. Those that run them do not ask for any kind of compensation. Everything is freeware.. so... Scripts are not exploits because everyone that wants to CAN materially use them. While everyone that wants to Buy RPs CAN'T.
ReplyDeleteThere are exploits that are not scripts, or that are available through the scripts even if the script writer never intended it to be used for that and they have no control over it happening. However, the KNOWLEDGE of those exploits is not available to everyone and therefore makes it the unfair advantage. These exploits are people taking advantage of a backdoor or loophole they stumbled across in the game and using that to gain an unfair advantage over other players.
ReplyDeleteAlso, as I stated before...it's not unfair if my neighbor wants to run out and buy a 2 million dollar house on the beach front, but that doesn't mean has an unfair advantage in life over me. Keeping up with the Joneses is NOT manadatory, it's not unfair, it's life.
Zynga can kiss my ass
ReplyDeleteInstead of Hiding behind the Anonymous status if you have something to say negative or Positive come out from behind your cloak of secrecy it puts more weight to what you are saying But when you hide behind the Secret wall of No one knows who I am I can Say anything off the wall because no one knows its me Just makes you look foolish and hold no real weight
ReplyDeleteI wish someone had found the person who stole 12million chips from my poker a/c... I gave zynga the exact time and date and they still claimed that there was nothing for them to see...
ReplyDeleteI was sat in a poker room watching my wife play, when all of a sudden there was my a/c betting silly bets all fold bar 1 person who matched bet... then I stood up...
2 years on and ive refused to play there poker again !!
Slightly takes the fun out of it..
Thanks A million for the info!!!! The lawyers will be in immediate contact.
ReplyDeleteThis has NOW BEEN forwarded to the lawyers.
ReplyDeleteI'll be forwarding this entire blog to the lawyers as well as MW Loot Lady's Spockholm's and every other outlet used to discuss the Zynga antics. These ARE public records.
ReplyDeleteSorry to burst your bubble Trevor....Zynga already knows about Spockholm's etc... I actually think they may even know the people....you aren't giving them anything they dont know....and as far as the bookmarklets....use the dont use them...its already in Zynga's TOS....as far as RP's....I concur with Bill.....if my neighbor buys a 2 million dollar home, they have no advantage over me. The offer for RP's is available to all....we all cant afford to buy them...but Zynga is in business to make money.....not listen to people whine about the people who made them the money....sorry....thats the reality of it....the almighty dollar speaks more....they also have people that work for them who probably make less than a lot of us...and have families to support....my only gripe is get the game working correctly....if you cant handle getting killed in Mafia Wars....go play farmville...its less stressful, and if your plants die...you only have yourself to blame!
ReplyDeleteKeep talking, it's food for the lawyers. I won't say anymore except this "I AM MAFIA WARS!" The lawyers are reading this. They can follow this right now!
ReplyDeleteI'm not hiding behind an Anonymous post either. Say you're name, or are you chicken? Or are you Pinky trying to say your bit? Hey, you're spyware is still on thisa computer Pinky.
ReplyDeleteSee, I'm not afraid to put my name on here. It's called accountability.
Lawyers, really?
ReplyDeleteLook the point is that Zynga does have their TOS so if someone chooses to use 3rd party tools or scripts and they get caught and verified they run the risk of losing their account. Whether someone has spent tons of time, money, or both, they risk losing their investment should they choose to use 3rd party options.
As far as Zynga is concerned, any tool not part of the game is a cheat. But, they must prioritize which tools are the most abusive and game leveraging and start somewhere. I am sure they are bombarded constantly with the 10M or so players of MW.
As a player and fellow addict of this game, my hope is they fix the game play issues 1st, and catch those with speed clickers etc along the way until their list is narrowed.
The game has become a lot harder to maintain than it was when I started playing BUT I still log in everyday and play. Its my choice BUT I do think something needs to be done about the loot sellers. As far as Zynga selling RP's, how long do you think the game would last if people did not support it? It is a business after all. I know of three players that are whining cause they lost their accounts and two of them were probably selling more loot than Zynga. The other one was a for hire bully. For X loot he would set his brawler up to sit on someone for a certain amount of time. I for one do not feel sorry for them.
ReplyDeleteHow do these sites get so much high end loot, just days after it has been released?
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